Thursday, June 12, 2008

The BS Supreme Court!

The US Supreme Court Thursday ruled Guantanamo prisoners have the right to challenge their detention at the US military base in civilian courts, dealing a stiff rebuke to the Bush administration.

"The laws and constitution are designed to survive, and remain in force, in extraordinary times," the court said in its historic ruling, for the third time in four years striking down the government's case for trying "war on terror" suspects in military tribunals.

"Liberty and security can be reconciled; and in our system they are reconciled within the framework of the law," the court added, ruling that prisoners in the remote US jail in southern Cuba "have the constitutional privilege of habeas corpus."

By a vote of five to four, the court found that even if the base was officially on Cuban territory, it was in fact operating as if it were on American soil.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said the administration was "reviewing the opinion" but declined immediate comment.

Thursday's ruling should now give the prisoners and their legal teams the right under the constitution to demand to know on what basis they are being held.

So far the administration of President George W. Bush has refused to unveil the body of evidence to justify the prisoners' continued detention, arguing it would be against the interests of national security.

Detainees have long protested that they had been mistreated, and have questioned the very legality of the Guantanamo military tribunals, which the administration has said will try the cases of 80 prisoners instead of civilian courts.

The Supreme Court took up the issue of Guantanamo inmates in 2004 and again in 2006, ruling both times that detainees had a statutory -- legal but not constitutional -- right to contest their indefinite detention before an independent judge, a legal process known as habeas corpus.

But, urged by the Bush administration, Congress in 2006 passed new legislation that forbade them from seeking justice in a federal court until they are judged by a special military tribunal.

It was not immediately clear how Thursday's ruling would affect those 270 detainees still held in the jail.

Australian David Hicks is the only "war on terror" detainee to have so far been sentenced at Guantanamo after pleading guilty in a deal with US authorities which allowed him to serve out the remaining nine months of his sentence at home.

The most important trial of five alleged suspects in the September 11, 2001 attacks is not due to get fully underway until the summer, after they were read the charges against them at a hearing last week.

The first detainee who could be affected is Yemeni Salim Hamdan, accused of being the driver and personal bodyguard of the leader of the Al-Qaeda terror network, Osama bin Laden.

An initial appeal by Hamdan led to the 2006 Supreme Court decision, and his lawyers have already filed an appeal to a Washington court which was awaiting the Supreme Court decision before taking up the case.

Since the camp was opened in January 2002 to deal with the suspects rounded up in the US "war on terror" it has under gone major changes.

Two-thirds of the 800 prisoners who have passed through its barbed-wire gates have been freed, mostly without charge, after several years in captivity.

But the remaining prisoners are often held in solitary confinement, allowed little contact with their families and the outside world, and have no certainty about their fate.

Four detainees have committed suicide, and hunger strikes are frequent, leading to the force feeding of prisoners by their military guards.

The initial open air cages, which triggered a storm of international criticism, have long been emptied and today have returned to grass and the native iguanas.

And most of the prisoners, even those which the US authorities have said could be freed, are now housed in modern cells modeled on those in US high-security jails.

Both candidates to succeed Bush in the November elections, Republican John McCain and his Democratic rival Barack Obama have said they will close the prison.

The White House has also repeatedly said it would shut Guantanamo down, but has failed so far to come with an alternative, or to find countries willing to take some prisoners, such as Muslim Uighurs from northwest China, who face repression at home. - Drudge Report

What the heck! This is BS! Where in the constitution does it say that Prisoners of war have the same rights as American Citizens! The men in Women in uniform fight and die for our freedom! Not the enemy's freedom! This shows the lack of understanding of the constitution by the Supreme Court and the congress. Sometimes I wonder if they have all used there only copy's of the constitution as toilet paper. I swear If Our founding fathers would come back from the dead and see how the Libra l's and big government have hijacked this great nation! Our founding fathers would start a civil war against this liberals. Don't believe me! Just look at gas prices! The Price of gas before Liberals took control of the congress was $2.15 a gallon! How much is it now! $4.00 a gallon! why because it is the liberals and environmentalist are stopping us from producing more oil.

I call on everyone to call there congress men! Flood there lines and tell them how pissed you are! Tell them to stop destroying this great nation.


Repack Rider said...

This is an important ruling in favor of the rule of law.

The Bush administration maintained that it could capture citizens of other countries, imprison and torture them, and no one ever had to produce evidence that the charges against them were valid, they were not entitled to know why they were being held or what their fate might be.

In other words, we had followed the lead of all dictatorships, such as Josef Stalin, Pol Pot or Mao Tse Tung imprisoning people merely because we had the power to do it and never had to answer for being wrong. And you say our country should emulate these murderous thugs.

Your hatred of the core principle of our country shows that you hate freedom. I am a United States Army veteran (and you are not, chickenhawk), and I will defend your First Amendment right to admire the examples of Stalin and the others, but I don't have to agree with it.

James III said...

The Constitution grants Congress and the President the power to acquire, dispose of, and govern territory, not the “power to decide when and where its terms apply.” The political branches may not “switch the Constitution on and off at will,” nor may they decide “what the law is.” In essence, the Court said that because the U.S. has exclusive dominion and control over the military base at the U.S. Naval Station at Guantanamo Bay, the Constitution applies to anyone held there by the United States government.

The detainees at Guantanamo are ENEMY combatants, not random people. “These are people who are not citizens of our nation. They do not and never have been given the rights that citizens in this country have. In this case they wrote the law themselves, they just invented it. They ignored the law as written by Congress, claimed it was unconstitutional.

In 232 years, never before have prisoners of war caught on the battlefield been treated as common United States criminals, citizens, with access and rights to our Constitution. It's never, ever, happened. So what we have here, we have an activist liberal judiciary which is intent on destroying George W. Bush, and at the same time weakening the United States of America because in their minds, their own personal policy preferences, in their minds, America is guilty, we shouldn't have been in Iraq. Any of these prisoners we've captured are unjustly and unfairly captured. This is the way the left seeks to address their grievance by punishing the whole country.

And I do not have hatred of the core principles of our country and I don't hate freedom! Nowhere in the constitution does it say that prisoners of war have the same rights or freedoms as Americans do, Nowhere. I would join the military in a heart beat and fight for our nation if I could, but I was born with a disability that effects my legs. And I do thank you for your service.